During the 2nd annual ComplexCon in Long Beach, CA, future NBA Hall Of Famer Kobe Bryant & Kendrick Lamar sat down together for a once in a lifetime conversation, focusing on “the Evolution to Greatness.”

During their chat the two greats spoke on the growth to greatness in their respective fields: Kobe, from a scrappy rookie “headhunter” to growing into a team leader (“from 8 to 24”); Kendrick, from merely rapping “for the homies” to connecting to people on a global-wide scale. The interesting sit down showcased both LA legends detail their journeys to the top, the challenges they face, their legacies, and more.