With his new book DNA Of Achievers out now, Mathew Knowles dropped by The Breakfast Club this morning. While there, he talks about the history of Destiny’s Child and the possibilities of a reunion, why he no longer manages his daughter Beyoncé, how he felt meeting Jay Z for the first time, and much more.

He seemed to have it out for Charlamagne early on, but things take a turn around the closing of the interview. See for yourself below.